Friday, 25 April 2014

The API question....

My morning reading has two blogs with entries about the API and are interesting.

http://targetcaller.blogspot.ie/2014/04/boredom-and-api.html


http://indecisivenoob.blogspot.ie/2014/03/api-security-blessing-and-curse.html

When anyone talks about the API keys I always have the image of this cartoon in my head:

Here is my waffling two cent's worth......

It's essentially true, Eve and other MMO's are drastically different on how a player will join a corp/guild.
This is mainly caused by the non consensual pvp nature of the game but the API key is the big question and based around assets.

Apart from API checks, an Eve characters freely available employment history alone can be held against them, too many corps in a short time "obviously" means they are up to "no good".   Like all things it takes a little intelligence to look into those corp's and see if that really is true, but most employers will just look quickly and say no if they see too many.


As for the API's, I stand on the side of not giving FULL API key entries.
I won't give the full code but this is not due to me looking to spy, steal or awox (awox) other players/corps This may sound incredibly silly to a lot of eve players but I hate the principle of it. The thought of the information being used, scrutinised and potentially used against me is not what I want.


I have no problem with giving a complete character key on my alts but I'm not going to hand over all the information about all my characters on my account (my alts are just that, alternative characters I want to do specific things with regardless of the mains).
While the corps and alliances will be wailing about security issues / spies and awoxers, I really think that the game would be better served by only having character api keys. It is supposed to be a sandbox, a dark dangerous universe after all.


Before getting a third account I had two characters on my first account. My main, and my main alt.
I was very happy having my main being the goodie two shoes, clean nosed hi-sec carebear. So I created the main alt to be the pvp/null alt, doing all the things I didn't want to do on my main (like endanger him).

The thought of applying to a corp with my main alt and needing to give full details about my main was just not going to happen. 
I am picky about what corp's I want to join. I've been in convo's with friends in game while part of recruitment chats and it usually is comical. One friend in particular is very enthusiastic about stuff and will give his full key will nilly to anyone who asks. I'm the opposite, and in our private chats during these recruitment's I usually comment on what the recruiter really means, perhaps very cynically.

My current null sec alt selected his corp because they were 0% tax and part of a sov holding alliance ( I wanted to use PI ).
I was accepted in. No API check at all and no interview, a few quick questions on my first login as a member and that was it.
The corp had no assets at the time and is based around ratting and mining.
The last few month's have seen the corp develop a little and get a POS up as well as a station corp hanger. Corp members have donated for these.
All these are strictly setup so that only people that have contributed have access. As it should be.  API keys have nothing to do with stopping a person taking anything.
I donated a lot of BPC's for corp use. I have access to the bpc's.
The simple fact of setting security rights on containers in hangers is a good useful tool.  API has nothing to do with it.
The corp leadership recently asked for a voluntary api key not for the corp but under pressure from the alliance. I gave the character api.
In this situation I do not see how a full api let alone a character api would be useful to them.
The corp is protected by being smart with it's assets.  If I were to awox I'd be hounded out after getting a cheap kill or two.... then what.... that char would be blacklisted by any other prospective corp I wanted to join.

Even an API given by a "spy" an alt on an account that was totally separate from anything else and used as an infiltrator. API definitely doesn't help there. In short any person who whats to really spy well is never going to be shy about giving a full API.

My alt that lost the Tempest recently is in it's own corp and only has 2 other members, alts of friends.
I had tried to get this corp off the ground before but was unsuccessful.

I have not advertised this corp for recruitment nor interacted with anyone who might consider wanting to join in a long long long time. I've just been doing some missions with a friend, very low key.
A few days ago I was surprised to have gotten an application to join by a person saying they wanted in "before they get bored and leave eve".
Oh really.
First thought in my head was that's an alt of one of the dudes that got in on the kill mail looking to awox. Second thought was why ask to join a corp that only has a few players by saying you want to interact with people. If you want to interact with people go join RvB. The character applying has a few other previous corps under his belt and all seem to be 50 characters plus in size. Why want to join a 4 person corp.
Third, the corp has a dedicated chat channel.... I've never seen this dude in it to asking questions.....


Anyway I dont' think I'd get a full API key from him.... maybe I should ask and then ask for a few million in processing fee's... then screw him over in some other way like moving gear for him to a new mission area that just see's me take that gear.... now that's just taking advantage.

API keys dont' help

No comments:

Post a Comment